No, I don't believe there was a misunderstanding. I was just arguing a topic. I don't believe firmly either way on abortion. I just felt that it always helps to look at the other side. Bad things will happen whether abortions occur or not. Just because we stop aborting babies or don't, that doesn't mean cancer will be cured or that we will preserve resources. That's all just a gamble on our part. I just wanted to state that I believe God has the final say, no matter what we want or think.
I was never disagreeing with you about God having the final say, nor was I disagreeing with you about bad things will always happen. I know these things. However, the Pro-Life movement is something I am personally and directly connected to, and God has called me to be a pro-life advocate. That is why I am focusing so strongly on that. It isn’t because I believe it is the only evil in the world. I know that even if abortions didn’t exist, there would still be evil. Evil exists because Satan exists. Sin exists because of the fall of mankind when Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Knowledge. God does have the final say, you are right, and I never thought differently.
Yes, people's actions did cause those events, but abortions are not the only 'evil' in our world. There are plenty of other reasons for punishment. The world will never be perfect, no matter what we do. It will come to an end; there will be punishment. It's something that society has to face and accept, not everyone will be spared. Only those that have followed His teachings will be prepared.
I never said that abortions are the only evil in this world. I know that there are so many other evils in the world. Just because I am fighting so strongly for life doesn’t mean I think it is the only evil in the world. I think we had a misunderstanding somewhere in this conversation? Because I definitely agree with you:
Only those that have followed His teachings will be prepared.
No, God's choices aren't bad, but he does punish us. Remember the flood? That practically destroyed the earth. God is fully capable of doing something of that caliber again.
I never said that He is not capable of that. I have no doubt in my mind that it might happen again. I know very well about the flood, and I also know about Sodom and Gomorrah. But the evil sinful actions of people were what led to that.
Catechism of the Catholic Church no. 1219
“The Church has seen in Noah's ark a prefiguring of salvation by Baptism, for by it “a few, that is, eight persons, were saved through water”: The waters of the great flood you made a sign of the waters of Baptism, that make an end of sin and a new beginning of goodness. no. 1219
I totally just realized this. So you know how there’s a pro-life movie (and a wonderful one at that) called “Bella”? Well in Italian (my heritage yayyy!!), Bella means beautiful! Thus being said, I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason they titled the movie as “Bella” is because Life is BEAUTIFUL!!!! :]
I’m probably not the first or even the hundredth person to notice this, but I still think it is awesome xD
I don't believe God ever promised he would not let bad things happen to the world. You say "people cause bad things to happen to the world," which is true, but when you say "people have the capability of preventing these things," that may not be true. God gives people their abilities, and if he doesn't want something to happen, it's not going to happen. He does have full control. In essence, he could let us destroy our own world in that way...
God promised to love us unconditionally. Jesus died on the cross for our sins, so that they may be forgiven. God is taking care of us. We are the ones who make the bad choices and the wrong decisions, not God. We let bad things happen to ourselves. Not a moment goes by that God does not protect us, love us, forgive us, and provide what we need for everlasting life in Heaven. It is up to us whether or not we are willing to accept that.
Not saying I'm for abortion, but have you ever thought about how much more trouble the world would be in if every aborted baby had lived? The population would be more massive than it is now, birth rates would be higher, precious resources used up in the blink of an eye...
A very good question indeed. I hope my answer will help.
There is a reason for every birth. Every single child has a purpose in life. I don’t care about how high the population would be. That baby could end up being someone who could change the world! That baby could be somebody’s brother, sister, mother, father, cousin, aunt, etc. That baby could discover a cure for cancer. Every life counts. Every life is important, no matter how many lives there are in the world. God won’t let high populations and many births cause bad things to happen to the world. PEOPLE cause bad things to happen to the world. But PEOPLE have the capability of preventing these things. Eliminating the number of people being brought into the world eliminates the number of people who can help prevent problems like “using up precious resources”.
Went to the closing ceremony for the 40 Days For Life organization in my hometown...
It was AMAZING, there was a huge turnout, it just made me so happy!!! And listening to different people speak was so…inspiring, so…beautiful, yet such a reminder of what it is we are fighting for, what it is I am fighting for.
I have always been a huge fighter for life, a huge pro life advocate. But hearing the stories of people who’s lives have been turned around…hearing the stories of people who decided against abortion BECAUSE of the people praying at the centers and talking to them and answering questions…
I’ve been fighting, but not hard enough. I will never have fought hard enough. I will keep fighting and fight as hard as I possibly can, but the amount of possibility is endless. I won’t stop until the day I die.
Starting now, my advocacy for the Pro Life movement will go WAY WAY WAYYYYY up. And you know what? I may get persecuted by others. WAIT. I take that back. I KNOW I will get persecuted for this by others. But I’ve got God on my side, and as long as I trust in Him, I will be okay.
We are all called to be martyrs in ministry!!
That is something that our new Bishop said today at the ceremony, and I took those words to heart.
I don’t care what happens to me, as long as I am fighting for Life when it happens.
My name is Jessica, and I have a bias for life. NO REGRETS.